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Offline MovedGoalPosts

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Going to the Dark Side
« on: 29 June 2020, 06:47: PM »
Placed an order for Sky TV & Broadband  :shocking:

I've been with Virgin Media - was NTL, was Cable & Wireless, was Nynex - ever since I moved in here, 1997.  But they have become too pricey.

Last straw is I got an email a few days ago warning my current "deal" was coming to an end, and would go up to about £90 pcm.  But it had an offer buried at the bottom that would allow me to get a service for about £67pcm (200 broadband, "maxit" TV).  That price excluded the second V+ box I have but I was already looking to drop that as I hoped to do a workaround with the Fire TV stick and sideloading the VM app.  Phone today and they've just reviewed pricing so offer not available, cheapest they can now do for my package is about £78pcm, and it would be even more to keep the second V+ box.

By the power of the internet, I could see Sky can offer TV with a full range of HD channels including Netflix and Sky Atlantic (both of which I would watch, but haven't got with Virgin, indeed not being able to get Atlantic on VM has always been annoying since so much "premium" stuff goes on that channel - yes I know Sky want to charge VM stupid money for it).  It excludes sport or movies (but don't have those on Virgin either and don't want - I've yet to watch BT sports on VM), Ultrafast 1 broadband (140 ish down, 27up - upload is better than Virgin, download slower, unlimited use with no throttling), phone has evening and weekend calls included (weekend only on Virgin).  About £20 one off installation costs.

So I lose a bit on download speed - I doubt I will massively notice, especially as only me doing internet stuff and that is more than fast enough for streaming and stuff whilst I get slightly faster upload.  TV package is definitely better.  Phone is a "wifi" so VOIP based system.  I'll also have only a single TV box, but hope that I can sideload onto the Fire stick the Sky Go app so can still do some stuff on the bedroom TV.

The real concerns - I'll have to move all my email addresses from the VM platform.  I don't really want a satellite dish on the front of the house, but never mind.  Sky don't seem to be showing any added charges for the fact that I don't have a satellite dish, nor a BT Openreach type phone line to the house. 

I don't understand how Virgin have managed to get so uncompetitive on pricing.  When I looked at this 18 months or so ago, VM were a bit more pricey than Sky, but won out as at that time the BT Openreach broadband was only their standard "infinity" services.  I don't need to pay for the headline grabbing 500mbps speeds.  Perhaps VM need to unbundle BT Sports from their TV package so that the basic TV can compare across the platforms?

Provisional install dates are end of July.  I suspect there are going to be a few fun and games to get the wiring fitted, especially with some of the current Covid-19 issues. Then I'll find out if I've done the right thing.
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Re: Going to the Dark Side
« Reply #1 on: 30 June 2020, 08:04: AM »
May the force be with you ;) seriously though, hope it all goes well.

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Re: Going to the Dark Side
« Reply #2 on: 30 June 2020, 09:24: PM »
I'm with BT which includes Netflix,Amazon Prime and Now TV as part of their system. If you purchase the Now TV entertainment package  (£10 per month) that gives you 10 Sky channels including Atlantic.

I have the the Fibre 1 package which is 50Mb up and 9Mb down - which is £28 per month which include line rental, but down not include any call plan on the landline (which does not matter since we very rarely make out going calls)

The only upgrade is to 73Mbs up and 18Mb down for an extra £8 per month, but i've never needed to do so

They are offering 'full fibre' if you live in the right postcode, speeds of upto 900Mb, no idea on pricing

No idea if this helps MGP, but it would mean no dish outside the house

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« Last Edit: 30 June 2020, 09:26: PM by IMPz »

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Re: Going to the Dark Side
« Reply #3 on: 30 June 2020, 10:48: PM »
Thanks IMPz.  I did look at BT, TalkTalk.  Despite the satellite dish, at the moment, for the overall package, Sky do work out a few pounds a month cheaper. 

There are pros and cons for everything.  Sky would be a silly price if I add a second TV box, as their £14 pcm charge for a Q mini is extortionate - Virgin £7 for the standard V+ box, BT only want £5.

It may only be me, but I can hammer my broadband at times, and during lockdown upload speed has been quite important for work and stuff so I do still want something that offers a good alround up and down speed so desire the upper Openreach offerings now those are available.  Somehow Sky apply a better discount on their broadband than BT currently offer.  Installation costs re also a bit heavier with BT, especially as they say I need a TV arial (no doubt for the Freeview channels) and I know the wiring to my arial is long since perished.
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